A statement from Students for Justice in Palestine

We will not be silent.

Earlier this week, posters appeared on this campus produced by the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a hate group. Using McCarthy-like tactics, these posters named and intimidated Tufts students and a faculty member with the aim to end our organizing using wildly offensive language and defamatory attacks. These posters breached student privacy and should be treated as libel.

We are happy that Tufts administration has condemned these posters and offered support to named students as they should. Still, most of the posters were removed by students, including students who the posters defamed. Days later, legible scraps of the posters remain throughout campus, when they should have been removed immediately. Students should not have to remove the very hate speech that targets them. In the wake of these events, we demand support for our right to organize on campus as it systematically comes under threat by right-wing hate groups.

These posters targeted members of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) and Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) using anti-Palestinian and anti-Arab imagery and text. For those of us targeted by these posters who are Jewish, the use of anti-Semitic tropes was especially disturbing, given how the posters appropriated anti-Semitic graphics to serve an Islamophobic, anti-Arab organization, while, ironically, claiming to seek an end to anti-Semitism. As members of SJP and JVP we reject the conflation of anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism, and are devoted to fighting all forms of oppression including Islamophobia, anti-Arab racism and anti-Semitism.

We will not be silent when extra-judicial killings occur regularly in the West Bank. We will not be silent when over 700 Palestinian children are imprisoned, many without being charged with a single crime. We will not be silent when Palestinian poets like Dareen Tatour are imprisoned for their writings.

And we will not be silent when hate speech targets members of the Tufts community. Because we know that what happens over “there” and what happens “here” cannot be divorced. We know that the repression faced by Palestinians — though much more distant and violent — and the repression faced on this campus are underpinned by the same violent ideologies: racism and apartheid.

These posters are only a reminder of how the silencing of resistance is a staple of upholding oppression. We are speaking back to show that we will continue in the struggle. The only thing that will stop our work is the end of Israeli apartheid.

In solidarity,
Students for Justice in Palestine at Tufts University


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  1. Concerned Citizen
    Oct 24, 2016 - 12:07 PM

    And we, the silent majority of principled, clearheaded Americans, will not be silent so long as you continue your destructive offensive against the one and only Jewish state. The one middle eastern country with a semblance of human rights preservation. You all seem so eager to ignore the vastly more serious human rights violations of millions by Saudi Arabia, China, Russia, Pakistan, and so many other countries. You are not victims and you don’t have the privilege of attacking Israel with impunity.

    • Matthew Yaspan
      Oct 24, 2016 - 12:31 PM

      Hi! I’m a Jewish American. Don’t speak on my behalf. And while I disagree sometimes with the tactics and am unsure about some things SJP says (more so nationally, but sometimes at Tufts), fighting for the rights of the disenfranchised is a noble goal and I know and hope the Tufts SJP have always strived to do just that.

      Even then, what you said is a non sequitur. What was done to these students crosses the line of civil discourse and your comment is a tacit acceptance of it. It’s utterly disgraceful.

      Also what the fuck is a “silent majority” if not silent? And why must SJP feverishly move to denounce every injustice everywhere as they come up? This is the same sort of inane criticism that ignoramuses such as yourself levy at Black Lives Matter and any people who have the gall to organize against injustice. What are YOU doing outside of anonymous peanut gallery armchair criticism of people who do the work of organizing?

      • Concerned Citizen
        Oct 24, 2016 - 12:56 PM

        Moving past my less-than-perfect wording, let’s remember that at both Tufts and around the country, the angelic idealist image you present of SJP is very often not the reality. A hate group targeted SJP, an organization which has – tacitly or explicitly – enabled hate to seep into its own activism. One should not publicly assert that Israel is a racist, apartheid, genocidal state, and a uniquely terrible violator of human rights, or that Jews among the nations don’t deserve self-determination, without expecting some form of repercussions. SJP students: your noxious lies are heard both on and off campus. Welcome to the real world.

        • Chapo Trap House Boyz
          Oct 24, 2016 - 03:54 PM

          lol. The one middle eastern country with a semblance of human right? Bc mass displacement, murder and forced labor is human right. Are you fighting every injustice or are you just an angry hypocrite? The one and only Jewish state, as if a racist, theological position is a good thing. Basically what you’re saying is ‘shut up sjp, you deserve to be harassed and blacklisted.’ Are you the canary mission rat at Tufts, or just their roommate? Your comment is harassment dressed up in liberal speech btws.

          • Concerned Citizen
            Oct 24, 2016 - 04:47 PM

            Clearly Israel isn’t a perfect country. But give me an example of another nation in its neighborhood that has consistently protected the rights of religious, ethnic, and sexual minorities. Or one with a functioning democracy and just courts of law. Israel’s neighbors are simply incomparable.

            And no, Israel is a Jewish state in the same way that France is a French state, Poland is a Polish state, and Japan is a Japanese state. France enacts policies aimed at protecting the French language and culture. Anglicanism is the official religion of England (Judaism does not even have that status in Israel). There are dozens of countries with various streams of Christianity and Islam as their official religions – and with governments enforcing or at least supporting those faiths at the expense of others. If all the world’s peoples are entitled to self-determination and self-preservation of their unique cultures and identities – if the Koreans are entitled to a Korea, if the Armenians are entitled to an Armenia, then Israel is no different.

            It is important to criticize Israel when warranted. But when it comes to human rights activism it only makes sense to go after the gravest violators first. Why there is a nationwide network of SJP chapters but no such equivalent for those working for justice in Saudi Arabia, China, Russia, or others is incredibly troubling. China forcibly displaced 1.2 million people for the relatively recent construction of the Three Gorges Dam. Saudi Arabia, an American ally engaging in billions of $ of bilateral trade with us, prevents Black women from appearing on camera and from numerous professions. It does not allow non-Muslims to attain citizenship or to even enter Mecca – this is actual religious and racial apartheid. There is de-facto slavery happening today in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE, among others. If an American nationwide movement to eliminate slavery in Mauritania were to emerge, imagine how fast that travesty could be challenged and eliminated.

            If you’re angered by racist regimes that tolerate forced labor, murder, and mass displacement, there are far worse violators than Israel. But that’s besides the point: SJP has no problem embellishing the truth to fit their narrative. There is no genocide of Palestinians. If one is willing to claim such a terrible thing is happening – and being perpetrated by a people that underwent one of the most horrific genocides in history less than a century ago – one better expect backlash.

          • Chapo Trap House Boyz
            Oct 24, 2016 - 11:18 PM

            Oh this going to be fucking fun. Your whole claim is worse shit happens in the world so don’t be mad about Israel. That’s not a legitimate argument and you’re either stupid or you just don’t care when you use it. Saudi Arabia is pretty close to Israel in terms of human rights record, considering both use mass-displacement, indefinite detention, extrajudicial murder and forced labor against. While Israel has a better record on women’s right’s than the saudis, that doesn’t delegitimize criticism of the state of israel. Oh so Judaism is an ethnicity now? I thought it was a religious with ethnically distinct populations that sprang up all over the world and then were sent to evict the native population of Palestine. I guess I must’ve missed the part where the formed a coherent ethnicity through means other than state propaganda. But Israelis aren’t Isrealis, they’re an imported people. It’s like if Catholic Mexicans claimed Ireland because they had Spanish forefathers and before the Romans spain was Celt-Iberian and so they get Celtic lands. Netanyahu, that’s all I have to say about your fig-leaf state religion sentence.

            Also your soda stream was made in the westbank with forced labor but I guess that’s okay because the Palestinians didn’t live in Palestine because we all know it was a virgin land when the Zionists first landed there just like New England when the Pilgrims arrived. Right?

            “There is no genocide of Palestinians. If one is willing to claim such a terrible thing is happening – and being perpetrated by a people that underwent one of the most horrific genocides in history less than a century ago – one better expect backlash” Really? The Holocuast doesn’t excuse forcing people from their lands, destroying their homes, murdering their children, torturing dissidents, imprisoning journalists. I guess maybe if it were happening in Brandenburg as opposed to Palestine.

          • Concerned Citizen
            Oct 25, 2016 - 12:33 AM

            Apparently you’ve internalized a lot of Palestinian propaganda. It is incredibly telling how you believe Israel to be a comparable human rights violator to Saudi Arabia.

            And yes, Judaism is an ethnoreligious group. I’m not here to provide you a lesson on Jewish history, but this is a normative concept within most Jewish circles. Palestinian and Arab state media proclaim otherwise, but the Jews developed as a civilization in Judea. Because Judaism is not a proselytizing religion there has been a remarkable continuity over 2,000 years; today consensus among geneticists is that all major Jewish groupings (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi) are both genetically close to each other and that the closest non-Jewish group genetically to them are the Palestinians. Judaism can be thought of as being simultaneously a religion, a nationality and a culture. Though the notion that Jews constitute a nation has been a foundational part of Hebrew civilization, throughout the middle ages and into the 20th century, most of the European world also agreed that Jews constituted a distinct nation.

            Of course, Judaism is a religion, and it is this religion that forms the central element of the Jewish culture that binds Jews together as a nation. It is the religion that defines foods as being kosher and non-kosher, and this underlies Jewish cuisine. It is the religion that sets the calendar of Jewish feast and fast days, and it is the religion that has preserved the Hebrew language. The fact that the Jewish nation has its own unique religion of course does not negate Jewish nationhood, just as Shinto doesn’t negate Japanese nationhood – it strengthens it.

            And you’ve seriously lost your credibility with me. Soda Stream, which no longer operates in the West Bank, employed voluntary workers. Your news sources must be Electronic Intifada or something. Wow.

            And no, today’s Palestinians define themselves as the descendants of the peoples which have inhabited the land for millennia. In fact, many of them descend from Jews who were converted and Arabized by subsequent empires. The sad truth is that this conflict is really a family feud between long lost cousins – though I believe acknowledging this this will ultimately be a catalyst for peace.

            Regarding genocide – my claim still stands. The Palestinian population in the land has risen from 1.5 million to 7 million since 1948. That’s not a genocide. Oppression on the part of the Israeli government is surely an issue, but to label it as genocide – which SJP seemingly has no problem doing – is a gross mischaracterization.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:30 PM

            “Israelophobia,” on the other hand, is steeped in centuries of anti-Semitic stereotypes, but it has now taken on an intense life of its own, often rich in contemporary fabrications — for example, that historically Jews have never lived in Jerusalem; that IDF soldiers harvest the organs of Palestinians; that the “wall of separation,” built to keep out terrorists, is a form of apartheid — and through these falsehoods gushes forth a hatred for Jews. Israelophobia is a block of hatred crystallized around a piece of land, around an idea. Anti-Zionism today, from Malmö to Qom, arises and multiplies entirely from prejudice against Israel: many of its most vicious critics have never even set foot in the state.
            These attacks on Israel are all too often made up of devastating classical anti-Semitic projections, lies and distortions to delegitimize Israel — the blood libel that Jews kill non-Jewish children to use their blood to bake matzah; bottomless greed; indifference, and savage cruelty toward anyone who is not Jewish. Even legitimate geopolitical decisions — such as the right to self-defense, or not being expected to hold territory in perpetuity until such time as one’s sworn enemies might perhaps decide not to threaten annihilation, with no cost for the delay; or ignoring other countries accused of “occupation,” such as Turkey in Cyprus, Pakistan in Kashmir or China in Tibet, while singling out only Israel for opprobrium. These accusations are often translated not just into judgments against Israel, but then go viral against any Jew.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 07:01 PM

            Your argument fails, because other countries in the region are not fleecing the U.S., to the tune of $38 billion. Israel is a client state, and it should behave as one. How dare its prime minister embarrass the American president, vice president or other senior government officials. How dare he meddle in presidential elections. How dare he try to undermine the president’s foreign policy with regard to Iran.

          • Concerned Citizen
            Oct 25, 2016 - 07:21 PM

            I beg to differ. The US and Saudi Arabia engage in bilateral relations. Saudi-US trade totaled $81 billion in 2012. US foreign direct investment in Saudi Arabia was $9.7 billion. Saudi Arabia is heavily dependent on the US as a buyer of its oil. Yet apparently the US’s mission of spreading human rights doesn’t apply to Saudi Arabia – the US appeases Saudi Arabia.

            While Israel is clearly a major beneficiary of its relations with the US, the alliance between the two countries is mutually beneficial and grounded in common core values. While I may not approve of all of Netanyahu’s actions or policies, as the leader of a sovereign state he has the right to pursue legal measures to protect Israel’s national security – this applies to Iran.

            The fact that so many students nationwide are focusing their time and energies on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict at the expense of much deeper issues is a tragedy for the hundreds of millions of oppressed people they’re overlooking. Actual apartheid and slavery is occurring – including in Saudi Arabia. Why is there no “SJSA – Students for Justice in Saudi Arabia”? But more importantly – and this is very crucial: SJP is NOT TANGIBLY IMPROVING the lives of Palestinians. The BDS movement is failing. Preaching anti-Zionism to university students is not helping Palestinians in Gaza or Syria. In practice it seems all that SJP is useful for is rabble rousing.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 07:24 PM

            Saudi Arabia’s royal family does not come begging with hat in hand, as the Israelis and Israel’s agents in this country do.

          • Concerned Citizen
            Oct 25, 2016 - 07:29 PM

            “In 2009 the late King Abdullah greeted Obama off the plane during the U.S. president’s first to the Kingdom; yesterday [2016] King Salman sent the governor of Riyadh to welcome the U.S. president while he received his Gulf counterparts a few hundred meters down the runway.”


          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:30 PM

            Thank you, you made my point exactly. To you, there’s only one conversation: That Israel is committing “ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and occupation.” No amount of facts will ever make you change your mind. And if any evidence surfaces that might contradict what you have convinced yourself to be the truth, you dismiss it with a wave of your hand as “pinkwashing.” Or “greenwashing,” or “girlwashing,” or “techwashing.”
            To you, Israel is not a real place with real people who live there. It’s a cardboard cutout, a caricature, a movie monster with Palestinian blood dripping from its fangs. You aren’t capable of logical or intellectual thought about it because you don’t want to think about what’s actually happening there. You just want to spew your hate and convince everyone else to be a brainwashed drone like you.
            That’s why when *I* talk about the actual issue, you deflect to “Israel’s occupation.”
            Israel’s occupation IS NOT the subject of this thread, kid. SJP spewing lies about it, is. I am not the one off topic, you are.

          • Patrick
            Nov 01, 2016 - 10:28 AM

            Please do me a favor and slit your wrists. You are truly psychotic.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 07:28 PM

            All this hand-wringing about Syria. Crocodile tears. No decision on U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East is taken without first asking whether it would be to Israel’s advantage. A brutal civil war in Syria is without question to Israel’s advantage. With every bomb dropped on Aleppo, Israel is safer longer. As for common value, there are fewer and fewer in common. Israel is an apartheid state and it is pursuing a program of land confiscation and ethnic cleansing.

          • Concerned Citizen
            Oct 25, 2016 - 07:33 PM

            This line of thinking reminds me of the classic anti-Semitic canard that the Zionists control the American government. In truth, no decision on U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East is taken without first asking whether it would be to the U.S.’s advantage. It just so happens that Israeli interests often align with American interests.

            A stable Syrian friend resembling today’s Jordan or Egypt is in Israel’s interests, rather than the chaos currently ensuing. But to imply that Syria’s war is Israel’s fault is incredibly malevolent.

            And no, Israel is not an apartheid state.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 07:38 PM

            I disagree. Israel has its own agenda in the Middle East, and peace is not on it. Israel is in fact detrimental to U.S. interests, insofar as its actions make the world more dangerous for Americans. Israel is no strategic ally. How many troops did the country send to Afghanistan? Israel will never fight a war on behalf of the U.S. On the contrary, Israel would take actions (e.g., Iran) that would draw the U.S. into conflict. It is a rogue state and it has to be cut loose.

          • Concerned Citizen
            Oct 25, 2016 - 07:55 PM

            1. Israel has on many occasions (including 2008) offered the vast majority of the disputed territories to Palestinian leaders for the creation of a Palestinian state.
            2. Israel is literally the front line in the war on terror. It has proven undeniably crucial in this respect.
            3. Like the US, Israel is wary of Iran’s nuclear program. We still do not know if the nuclear agreement will be successful – there have surely been significant cracks that have emerged. Unless you can foresee the future it is impossible to judge whether Netanyahu’s opposition to the agreement will ultimately be detrimental.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 08:04 PM

            Israel engages in terrorism on a daily basis. It sows the seeds of violence, and the terrorism aimed at it is of its making. I prefer peace with a country of 80 million, than a client state of 8.5 million that after nearly 70 years of independence is unable to pay its bills without significant amounts of aid from the U.S. With its separation wall and razor wire and only one means of egress (how many Israelis cross into Sinai and Jordan?) it resembles a ghetto more than a country. Look at a map of the West Bank. What do you think the Palestinian state will look like? Netanyahu and his predecessors made it clear again and again that there will be no other Arab state between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.

            You are free to give your support, moral and material to Israel. For the majority of U.S. citizens who have no “right of return” to exercise, there is no incentive to support Israel. It is high time the U.S. cut the umbilical cord.

          • Concerned Citizen
            Oct 25, 2016 - 08:22 PM

            You mean Hamas and the PA. Palestinian media and schools teach their children to kill Jews. Nothing of the sort occurs in Israel. Your other comments elsewhere on this page have already exposed your anti-Semitic views. I have no need to further engage with you.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 08:27 PM

            Nor I with you. Nathan Brown is Jewish, if I’m not mistaken, and he was retained by the U.S. government to evaluate the Palestinian curriculum. Educate yourself before you repeat tiresome accusations without a basis in truth: http://home.gwu.edu/~nbrown/Adam_Institute_Palestinian_textbooks.htm. I am a Semite, so I can’t be accused of being an anti-Semite. I’m not capable of such contortions. You are an foreign agent working for Israel. You are now dismissed.

          • Concerned Citizen
            Oct 25, 2016 - 08:38 PM

            anti-Semitism is defined as “hostility to or prejudice against Jews.” By saying you’re a Semite, you’re not immune to being labeled as an anti-Semite. You need a reality check.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 08:41 PM

            You call yourself a concerned citizen, but you are not concerned in the leasat about the U.S. or its standing in the world. You owe your allegiance to your tribe and to Israel. Consider making aliya.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:29 PM

            These activists are “stuck” on Israel. Neither logic,
            reasoning, or factual evidence will penetrate their mindsets, so determined are
            they to vilify Israel. Sarcasm though just might work—especially if there are
            any among them who still have the capability to feel shame.

            Usually when they are questioned as to why they avoid the much bigger problems
            evidenced by Israel’s neighbors, the answer is usually to say that they are
            concerned with all human rights abuses everywhere in the world, but their focus
            today just happens to be Israel. What they don’t say is that their focus is
            permanently stuck there—and their actions show that they have no interest in
            any other country, just Israel, Israel, Israel.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:28 PM

            Official PA television—the PA’s PBS—airs programs that feature children as young as six reciting anti-Semitic and violent poems. Just months ago, for example, a little girl recited a poem that claimed, (and I quote) “[Christians and Jews] are inferior, cowardly, and despised.” Three days earlier, on a different program, another young girl insisted that (and I quote), “Our wars are for the Al Aqsa Mosque, and our enemy, Zion, is a Satan with a tail.”
            This is apparently what passes for “educational television” under the Palestinian Authority.
            From cradles to kindergarten classrooms; from the grounds of summer camps to the stands of football stadiums, messages of extremism are everywhere in Palestinian society.
            In the international community, there is no shortage of individuals to lecture Israel about what it must do for peace. Yet these same “human rights advocates” stutter, mumble and lose their voices when it comes to criticizing Palestinian incitement.
            Ignoring words and thoughts of hate does no favors to the Palestinian people. It does no favors to families who seek to build better lives for themselves and their children. And, perhaps most importantly, it does no favors to Palestinian leaders who advance the language of peace instead of the dogmas of hate.
            Laying the groundwork for a stable peace in our region will not happen overnight. But those who would like to foster better relations between Israelis and Palestinians must start by speaking out against incitement in Palestinian society. The next generation—both Israeli and Palestinian—deserve no less.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:27 PM

            While millions of people worldwide are suffering real and extreme persecution at the hands of Islamists, it is Israel, the Middle East’s only democracy — where no one is above the law, where citizens all have equal rights and no one is murdered for expressing his political views — that is targeted and bullied by these so-called “human rights activists” and academics. Deaf and blind to the real sufferers all around the world, these Jew-haters seem in reality just brainwashed, misinformed neo-anti-Semites.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:27 PM

            Official PA television—the PA’s PBS—airs programs that feature children as young as six reciting anti-Semitic and violent poems. Just months ago, for example, a little girl recited a poem that claimed, (and I quote) “[Christians and Jews] are inferior, cowardly, and despised.” Three days earlier, on a different program, another young girl insisted that (and I quote), “Our wars are for the Al Aqsa Mosque, and our enemy, Zion, is a Satan with a tail.”
            This is apparently what passes for “educational television” under the Palestinian Authority.
            From cradles to kindergarten classrooms; from the grounds of summer camps to the stands of football stadiums, messages of extremism are everywhere in Palestinian society.
            In the international community, there is no shortage of individuals to lecture Israel about what it must do for peace. Yet these same “human rights advocates” stutter, mumble and lose their voices when it comes to criticizing Palestinian incitement.
            Ignoring words and thoughts of hate does no favors to the Palestinian people. It does no favors to families who seek to build better lives for themselves and their children. And, perhaps most importantly, it does no favors to Palestinian leaders who advance the language of peace instead of the dogmas of hate.
            Laying the groundwork for a stable peace in our region will not happen overnight. But those who would like to foster better relations between Israelis and Palestinians must start by speaking out against incitement in Palestinian society. The next generation—both Israeli and Palestinian—deserve no less.

          • Patrick
            Oct 31, 2016 - 03:58 PM

            There’s no discussion with a Zionist. Last post.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 04:02 PM

            The right of indigenous people to their homeland is not up for
            debate. Nor is the undeniable *fact* that the Jewish people originated in
            Israel. We are not disagreeing because there’s nothing to disagree about. You
            are simply denying reality because you are against Jews having the same rights
            as everyone else for a reason I would rather not speculate.

          • Patrick
            Oct 31, 2016 - 04:11 PM

            If Jews want to exercise their “right” to “their” homeland, who am I to stop them? They should be compelled to give up their current citizenship, however. No international nationalism.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 05:23 PM

            So let me get this straight. Per your logic Muslim international nationalism is OK, but Jewish nationalism is not?
            Even though wherever we find Muslim nations today they became Muslim through violent conquest. Do I have this right? If so, what is your logic? {sic}

          • Patrick
            Oct 31, 2016 - 05:33 PM

            Islam is a religion. Muslims give up their former nationalities to become citizens of other countries. Are the Jews an ethnic group, or is Judaism a religion? I think you would bend over backwards to defend Zionism, and Zionism is showing itself to be an untenable experiment, or gamble in the Middle East. I do not enjoy debating Jews or Zionists or Israeli and Zionist supports. I steer clear of them on a daily basis. Over and out.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 05:47 PM

            “Islam is a religion. Muslims give up their
            former nationalities to become citizens of other countries.”
            You really do live in fantasyland and facts mean nothing to you.
            In Islam there is no separation of mosque and state. There is no “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and unto God that which is God’s.” Instead Islam is a complete system that controls all aspects of life. In the most Islamic of nations (not sure whether that is Saudi Arabia or England) women are not allowed outdoors unless they wear a black sack that covers them from head to toe. Non-Muslims are not allowed in as citizens.
            In England more and more Muslim women are forced to go to Sharia courts where their rights are not treated with as much authority as men’s rights. There are more child marriages in England and more female genital mutilation. There are more no-go zones in England where firemen are afraid to enter without police protection.
            Tell me about one single similar situation involving Jews?
            Remember the Muslim who beheaded Lee Rigby in England while shouting out “Allahu Akbar”? I guess ypu consider that a successful case of Muslim integration into western culture.

          • Patrick
            Oct 31, 2016 - 05:53 PM

            You are confusing issues. You introduce the irrelevant in your argument. Were we discussing the integration of Muslims in Western societies? Not that I recall. 1) I believe that any American Jew who forgoes voluntary service in the U.S. military to enlist instead in the IDF is a traitor to this country. 2) The prime minister of a client state — and Israel is most certainly a client state — should show deference to the American president, and not embarrass him in the Oval Office where he is a guest (Arabs have much better manners); 3) Israel’s actions in the West Bank sow the seeds of hatred and violence; 4) Israel’s enemies are not the enemies of my country; 4) Israel’s actions make the world unsafe for Americans. Do not waste your time responding, because you will not have a response from me. Figure out where your loyalties lie. If they are with Israel, then make aliyah and surrender your U.S. passport please.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 06:36 PM

            “Arabs have much better manners.”

            Right, especially when they celebrate after planes fly into the WTC and Pentagon.


            “…and Israel is most certainly a client state…”

            Right. Israel is most definitely not a client state. In fact, Israel is one of the most successful, entrepreneurial countries in the world.

            I think it’s actually pretty funny when people support the BDS movement because if they put their money where their mouth is they would not buy computers, many advanced medical techniques and medicines and would not eat food irrigated with drip irrigation.

            It would be much easier to boycott the Arab countries since they produce so very little.


            “Israel’s actions in the West Bank sow the seeds of hatred and violence.”

            No Palestinian leaders do by deifying terrorists who kill women and children and by creating an educational system, a media industry that spews out Jew hatred 24/7.


            “Israel’s enemies are not the enemies of my country.”

            That is because leftist like you embrace Iran, the Muslim Brotherhood, Pakistan and Somalia.


            ” Do not waste your time responding, because you will not have a response from me.”
            You have written this several times now and you keep coming back. Everything you write is a lie.

          • Patrick
            Oct 31, 2016 - 06:38 PM

            A leftist? How wrong you are. A former U.S. diplomat. So I’m much more dangerous than you know. Traitor out!

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 06:44 PM

            I thought you were not going to respond (again).
            What sort of diplomat is so devoid of personal restraint as you? And what sort of diplomat spends his time on the Tuft’s Daily?
            Is everything you write a lie and/or flights of fancy?

          • Patrick
            Oct 31, 2016 - 04:47 PM

            And American Jews teach their children to be wary of Arabs. I remember the mother of one of my classmates telling her husband, aloud, while looking at me, “That boy is Lebanese.” No. I’m an American. I suppose she was afraid I’d eat him in his sleep. No thanks. I don’t keep kosher.

      • roccolore
        Oct 24, 2016 - 07:58 PM

        BLM advocates for copkillers. SJP praises terrorists.

    • Ander Pierce
      Oct 24, 2016 - 07:45 PM

      Hello Concerned Citizen,
      I am a SJP activist who pursues non-violent BDS activism. Israel is an apartheid state, Israeli mayors forbid Arabs from using their pools (http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/israeli-hygiene-culture/), Palestinians are prevented from receiving travel documents or using certain highways, and woman poets are jailed for ‘incitement’ by Israeli kangaroo courts. A few days ago non-violent activists like me were targeted by a right-wing hate group. My friends were harassed on their own campus and had their names and photos plastered all over campus. I want to know how you find this just. My friends and I are looking for solutions to an ongoing tragedy, you can be part of that dialogue, or you can cheer for the right-wing extremists that paint targets on our backs. Your call.

      • roccolore
        Oct 24, 2016 - 07:53 PM

        SJP is a hate group. SJP supports the apartheid in the Muslim world where gays are thrown off buildings, rape victims are stoned to death, and anyone who merely criticizes Islam is thrown in jail. Apartheid is what is happening to Asia Bibi, a Pakistani Christian woman who faces a death sentence for having a conversation about Muhammad that another person didn’t like. Apartheid is ISIS, Boko Haram, and Al-Shabaab.

        • Ander Pierce
          Oct 24, 2016 - 08:25 PM

          All of that is awful. So is incarcerating poets. So is the US-coalition bombing of Syrian army positions (the army fighting Daesh!). So is the bombing of the funeral at Yemen led by a US-supported Saudi coalition. So are the millions of Palestinians in refugee camps because Israel used its military to force people of their own land. The world is not black/white. It isn’t BAD ARABS vs. GOOD JEWS. There is suffering and injustice everywhere. And Israel is perpetuating a lot of it.

      • roccolore
        Oct 24, 2016 - 07:54 PM

        It’s left-wingers like you who are the extremists who make excuses for suicide bombers, those who kill over cartoons, Dzokhar Tsarnaev, Omar Mateen, and Muhammad Abdulazziz.

        • Chapo Trap House Boyz
          Oct 24, 2016 - 11:22 PM

          You’re dumb, use a comma. Also your argument is flawed af and if you’re a Tufts Student you should be smart enough to know that already.

      • Concerned Citizen
        Oct 24, 2016 - 09:43 PM

        Hey Ander,
        It’s really unfortunate that your friends were targeted by a hate group. At the same time, BDS is anti-Semitic and inherently violent – if its demands were to be fully met, you can bet there would be civil war. Moreover, Israel is not an apartheid state. Like all countries it is imperfect and discrimination is a problem. But it is not South Africa or Saudi Arabia. If you want to have your voice heard, it’s time to abandon your failing BDS and buzzword campaigns and instead formulate real solutions to improve the lives of Palestinians. Best of luck on your journey to enlightenment.

        Why BDS is anti-Semitic:

        Why Israel is NOT an apartheid state:

        Why Saudi Arabia is an apartheid state:

        • Chapo Trap House Boyz
          Oct 24, 2016 - 11:21 PM

          lol. It’s not south africa because south africa didn’t indiscriminately bomb black cities. Building walls and requiring people to have papers to pass through them is apartheid. Like just be honest with yourself, you can like Israel and think the murder of Arabs is justified, but you should have the balls to say so in public.

          • Concerned Citizen
            Oct 25, 2016 - 01:09 AM

            It’s unbelievable how ridiculous your assessment of Israel is. If Israel indiscriminately bombed Gaza, there would not be 1,500 civilian deaths in a population of 2 million. ANY civilian death is a tragedy, but the situation would be far worse. Apparently even UN recognition of Hamas’ use of human shields was not enough proof for you.

            Israel built a security barrier (which by the way decreased suicide bombings by 98%) that roughly traces the 1967 borders (with minor land swaps incorporating the majority of Israeli settlers) – any sovereign state has the right to build a wall along its borders with other states. Since Israel, the Palestinian leadership, the UN, the US, the EU, and the rest of the international community are all officially committed to a two-state solution based on these borders, it is not at all unreasonable that Israel builds a security barrier along its future border with the State of Palestine. According to UN Resolution 242 which all parties have endorsed, land-for-peace is the consensus best plan for a resolution, and this includes the possibility of land swaps.

            Apartheid means separation between two peoples. 25% of Israeli citizens are Palestinians/Arabs – they live on the SAME SIDE of the wall as Israeli Jews. Those living on the other side – in the disputed territories – are Palestinian citizens of Palestine who for the most part intend to remain members of a Palestinian state. Separation of the citizens of two separate countries is not apartheid. If the US controlling its borders with Mexico and Canada is not apartheid, then Israel doing so with Palestine is not apartheid.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:36 PM

            Apples cannot be compared to oranges, and this article does not provide sufficient evidence to allow for the comparison of Apartheid in South Africa to the current relationship between Israel and Palestine. For example, the author applies the word “segregation” to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict without evaluating the definition of the word and the parameters surrounding the situation which the author seeks to describe. In South Africa, black-skinned individuals did not ask to be separated from whites, and that is a component of the atrocity of the Apartheid regime. However, Palestinians have requested, if not demanded, separation from the Jewish Israelis. Furthermore, the author uses several charged political terms, including “segregation,” without paying respect to its proper definition. Separation is only part of the concept of political “segregation”. Just because two things are separated does not mean that they are politically segregated.

            Another theme to this debate is the sense of entitlement that pervades Palestine. While there are likely many Palestinians who would be happy for peace, their leaders represent themselves as radicals who feel that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth. Per the rhetoric of these radical leaders, they feel they are entitled to a land free of Jews. There are many Arab nations, but only one Jewish nation. The inequality is clear. Why can there not be a Jewish nation? Furthermore, Israel has made it very clear that it is happy to allow Arabs to live within its borders; it simply does not want its own people to be pushed away. Therefore, this is not a matter of Israeli Jews separating themselves from the Palestinians: the Palestinians refuse to intermingle and live at peace with the Israeli Jews.

            Why cannot the Palestinians allow for the Jews to live with them? Why are the Palestinians greater than Jewish Israelis?

            Israel has compromised enough. It is time for the Palestinians to compromise.

        • Ander Pierce
          Oct 24, 2016 - 11:25 PM

          Thanks for being relatively civil. You have to understand, some corporations act in a way that morally obligates me to refuse to support them. For instance, ‘HP (Hewlett-Packard) provides the technology the Israeli military needs to continue its occupation of Palestine and restrict the freedom of Palestinians, including the biometric data used in Israeli checkpoints on Palestinian land. In the US, it operates inmate data systems in prisons and works with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to speed up deportations. HP is also one of the world’s top military contractors. (For more info: http://www.massagainsthp.org/)

          You can call boycotting corporations like HP violent, just like you could call the boycotts used against apartheid-era South Africa violent. Either way you’d be wrong, and missing a much larger point. HP (and corps like it) do actual violence, in the form of incarceration, military operations, and deportation. I am responding to actual, brutal violence with non-violent economic action.

          The lives of Palestinians *would* be substantively improved if almost every Palestinian youth above the age of 16 didn’t have their height, weight, age, eye color, and address recorded by the Israeli military.

          BDS alone is not enough, I know this. Refugee policy, international policy, and international pressure put on Israel to ensure that they cannot legally execute stone-throwing children, put poets under house arrest, and use ‘administrative detention’ to incarcerate people for facebook posts. But corporations only respond to economic pressure. When a corporation steps out of line, and finds a way to profit off of suffering, it must be challenged.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:34 PM

            “In other news, _____ Chapter of Students for Justice in Tibet have insisted that the university cease doing business with any Chinese company.” – Imaginary news report that would never occur because the bigots who attack Israel don’t actually care about “occupation,” they want to destroy the Jewish State.

      • Brownstudent
        Oct 25, 2016 - 09:17 AM

        Ander, what are you doing about the violence advocated by and engaged in by Students for Justice in Palestine on a regular basis?

        For an SJP member to whine about harassment is hilarious.

      • Arafat
        Oct 31, 2016 - 01:33 PM

        • Since the Palestinians were never Israeli citizens, and never wanted to be Israeli citizens, there’s really no question of Apartheid here.
        The Palestinians’ disenfranchisement comes out of their own rejection of UNGAR 181, which advocated the establishment of one Jewish state (Israel) and one Arab state (Palestine, or whatever they might have wanted to call it) on the land of the Palestine Mandate. Had they accepted the resolution and established their own state on the land allocated by the UN, there would be no Palestinian refugees today.
        No country in the world can be forced to accept a belligerent population whose manifesto includes the destruction of the would-be host country. Neither democracy nor membership in the UN requires any country to commit suicide, which is what you seem to be advocating.
        If you really want an example of an Apartheid state, examine the laws of the Palestinian Authority– it is a criminal offense to sell Palestinian land to a Jew, and the maximum penalty for someone selling land to a Jew is death. Mahmoud Abbas has already declared on more than one occasion that “No Jew will be allowed to live in the new Palestine”.
        How’s that for Apartheid?

    • Patrick
      Oct 25, 2016 - 02:00 PM

      Israelis are the “victims” of hatred they inspire by way of their own racism and inhumane actions.

      • Arafat
        Oct 31, 2016 - 01:31 PM

        I think we should help Abbas and his dear friends and allies Hamas create a Palestinian state. Since Hamas is more popular than Abbas let’s call it Hamasistan. It could be based on all the other Islamist states. Women would have zero rights. Gays would be hung. Jews would be verboten. Non-Muslims would be killed unless they convert to Islam or pay a crippling tax that is designed just for them.

        I think this makes a lot of sense and is something college punks should march for, shout about, and pretend they care about. The world needs another Islamist state. What will we do without another Islamist state? It could join with Syria and then fight for fighting’s sake.

        In Hamasistan criminals will be punished by being tied to the back of jeeps and skinned to death. The lucky criminals will simply be pushed off rooftops, and if they’re really lucky the rooftop will be very high.

        In Hamasistan they will blame all their problems on Israel’s history, colonialism and imperialism that way the politicians can line their Swiss Vaults with endless international aid money and not be held accountable.

        Yes, this will solve all the problems and just ask any leftist, liberal, dreaming moron whether it will and he/she will tell you without a moment’s hesitation that this is so. Leave it up to the left to hate that which is good and to embrace that which envelopes darkness.

  2. The balanced heart
    Oct 24, 2016 - 12:47 PM

    Is the goal of SJP to actually help Palestinians work towards statehood and escape disenfranchisement? Or is it just to cause personal-level conflict on the Tufts Campus, to increase the divisions people have and make a lot of noise without putting forth any solutions or using any compassion to disarm the critics before they even have an argument? Because this type of non accepting, angry response (to what is obviously an unjustifiable act of hate) is only going to enflame petty conflict divorced from the actual issue.

    • Chapo Trap House Boyz
      Oct 24, 2016 - 03:57 PM

      So you’re saying “being mad about harassment will only lead to more harassment,” right? Because I forgot about the part of SJP’s strategy where they decided to water down their political demands to make kids feel comfortable.

      • nick12
        Oct 24, 2016 - 05:58 PM

        It doesn’t matter to SJP members that the Palestinian population in Israel/Palestine has risen from 1.5 million in 1948 to nearly 7 million today – they will find a way to call this a genocide.

        It doesn’t matter to SJP members that 25% of Israel’s citizens are Arabs with all of the legal rights of full citizens, that Arab citizens of Israel go to the same universities, hospitals, beaches, and theaters as Jews, or that Arab citizens of Israel can drive to an Israeli settlement in the West Bank without having to pass through any more checkpoints than an Israeli Jew would be required to – they will find a way to call this apartheid.

        It doesn’t matter to SJP students that 55% of Israeli Jews descend from refugees from Arab and Muslim countries (and are therefore just as “Arab” as the Palestinians), that Israel is the only country to have unilaterally rescued tens of thousands of Africans from genocide (via the Ethiopian airlifts), or that Israel is one of the most racially diverse societies on Earth – they will find a way to call this racism.

        Tell me that you support equal rights and self-determination of all peoples, show me that you’ll take a balanced and fair approach to Israel, as you would for any other country, then you’ll gain my respect.

        • Ander Pierce
          Oct 24, 2016 - 07:34 PM

          If you want a real conversation, PM me or hit me up if you live near Tufts campus. The issue is that the Horowitz Democracy Center accused Tufts students of terrorism, using the ‘canary mission’ as its source. According to Canary Mission, my professor Thomas Abowd is a terrorist, simply because he teaches Palestinian literature. SJP is about learning, teaching, and finding solutions, and rejecting a narrative that seeks to erase the events of the 1948 Nakba and onwards. Israel today is an apartheid state. http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/israeli-hygiene-culture/

          • roccolore
            Oct 24, 2016 - 07:55 PM

            SJP is about smearing Jews. You are the one who defends apartheid, especially in the Muslim world.

          • nick12
            Oct 24, 2016 - 08:18 PM

            SJP is about learning [only extremist Palestinian narratives & flawed histories of Israel/Palestine], teaching [Palestinian propaganda to the masses], and finding solutions [without taking the grievances of the Jews into account].

            SJP preaches anti-Zionism (the belief that Jews of all peoples are the only ones whose inalienable rights to self-determination are questionable). And let’s not forget that the 1948 Nakba was instigated by the Arab League nations! Had they not attacked a nascent Israel in the hours after it declared independence, the war during which many Palestinians fled or were expelled would have never occurred! And SJP is trying to frame the Israeli Jews as the sole cause of this? Give me a break…

            Thomas Abowd is a historical revisionist who bizarrely is willing to deny Jewish history, apparently in the name of Palestinian rights. “In Abowd’s vision of Israel, Jewish citizens have no national link to their land, but sought for no logical reason to conquer a dry, resource-poor area. He mocked the Bible as a “celestial real estate guide” and derided that in Israel “even in secular schools the Bible was taught as history,” as if the Bible had no historic value among other abundant evidence of the ancient Hebrew presence in Israel. Such erroneous and ahistorical beliefs inform propagandist Abowd’s ominous call for a “full or partial decolonization of Palestinian land,” part of the ongoing work by many Middle East studies professors to insidiously delegitimize Israel as a Jewish state.”


          • Ander Pierce
            Oct 24, 2016 - 08:31 PM

            You spout a flawed history and post another McCarythist blacklist site as your source on Abowd’s alleged revisionism. 😛 anyone can upload BS to campus-watch

            You accuse me of researching only Palestine-extremist works. Can I point you to the work by the well-respected Israeli scholar Tom Segev? Its title is ‘The First Israelis’. The piece details Israel’s founding and brings to light the occurrences that led to the Nakba, and the expansionist mindset of Ben Gurion.

            Finally, how to you justify Israeli mayors who outlaw Arabs from their pools, and the apartheid laws that prevent Palestinians from using highways?

          • nick12
            Oct 24, 2016 - 08:44 PM

            What exactly about my history is “flawed” in your eyes?

            And the article is a re-posting of an op-ed written by a Tufts Fletcher student. The website may be questionable, but the article is sound.

            I’ve read histories of 1948 by thinkers on all sides of the political spectrum. Fact is, the 1948 war happened because a coalition of Arab states – in violation of international law – invaded Israel. You can speculate all you want, but that remains a solid fact. If you’re willing to blame the Israelis for the Nakba and absolve the Arab states and the Palestinian leadership of their involvement in it, then you are willing to forgo the nuanced truth in favor of a more pleasing narrative.

            Discrimination is a problem in Israel, as it is a problem in Arab states, as it is a problem in Europe, as it is a problem in the United States. As for the highways – you’re ignoring the distinction that has to be made between Palestinian/Arab citizens of Israel, who are entitled to equal rights under Israeli law, and Palestinian citizens of Palestine – those living in the West Bank and Gaza who desire to live in a State of Palestine. ANY citizen of Israel can use Israeli highways. So long as Palestinians in the disputed territories continue to assert their rights to a separate state, they forfeit the rights granted to Israeli citizens.

          • Ander Pierce
            Oct 24, 2016 - 08:52 PM

            “They forfeit the rights granted to Israeli citizens” while Israel continues to build illegal settlements into their territories and annex their land.
            No one is pretending that the Arab nations were passive actors in the Nakba. But you seem to ignore the realities of colonialism, the British Mandate, and the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who fled their land as Israelis migrated into it. There are Palestinian-Israeli citizens who can visit (but not enter) the houses their grandparents were forced out of.

            You want to believe that SJP is some hate-fueled organization that soaks up revisionist accounts of extremists and lacks any founding in the real world. It’s a good way to make a straw-man against anyone with politics opposed to you.

            If you want you can go ahead and make us a straw man while Horowitz pretends that my housemates are terrorists, but it will prevent you from engaging in real dialogue.

          • nick12
            Oct 24, 2016 - 09:03 PM

            While it is normative today in many circles to claim those settlements are illegal, this is actually a debatable assertion for scholars of international law. Rather than being “occupied territory,” the West Bank is “disputed territory.” Given that the Arab states prevented the formation of the sovereignty proposed by the 1947 partition resolution, Jordan’s subsequent unrecognized annexation of the West Bank in 1950, as well as the fact that there has never been a Palestinian sovereignty in that territory, it has been posited that there is no legally recognized claim to who has sovereignty over the West Bank. Moreover, since the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine, with the intent to form a Jewish state between the sea and the Jordan river, included the area now known as the West Bank, Israel has at least as legitimate claim to the territory as any other state or group.

            It’s incredible how you insisted that my history is flawed, then backtracked, then asserted your own flawed history. “Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians” fled in 1948, during the war. They didn’t flee “as Israelis migrated into it.” It is actually true that Jewish immigration jumpstarted the area’s economy – demand for laborers led to an influx of Arabs from other areas. Surprisingly, many people who were not sympathetic to the Zionist cause believed the Jews would improve the condition of Palestinian Arabs. For example, Dawood Barakat, editor of the Egyptian paper Al-Ahram, wrote: “It is absolutely necessary that an entente be made between the Zionists and Arabs, because the war of words can only do evil. The Zionists are necessary for the country: The money which they will bring, their knowledge and intelligence, and the industriousness which characterizes them will contribute without doubt to the regeneration of the country.” The regeneration of Palestine, and the growth of its population, came only after Jews returned in massive numbers. The Jewish population increased by 470,000 between World War I and World War II while the non-Jewish population rose by 588,000. In fact, the permanent Arab population increased 120 percent between 1922 and 1947.

            If a Palestinian citizen of Israel is not permitted to enter a certain former village or any other area of the land, you can bet that a Jewish citizen of Israel is also not permitted to enter it.

            I do wish that SJP were truly doing productive work instead of angering Jewish students with their revisionist narratives. But that’s not what’s happening at Tufts, nor is it what’s happening at SJP chapters elsewhere. Instead, it has become a core mission of SJP to proselytize anti-Zionism. Let me ask: how is this helping a Palestinian in Hebron, Bethlehem, Syria, or elsewhere?

            Horowitz was wrong, I’m condemning his action right here. But SJP as an organization has serious flaws. Preaching anti-Zionism, focusing on 1948 instead of 2016, refusing to engage with pro-Israel organizations – these are not tactics that are productive. If you want to truly help advance Palestinian rights, join J Street, B’tselem, Adalah, etc.

          • Ander Pierce
            Oct 24, 2016 - 09:10 PM

            I feel that the incompatibility of our outlooks comes from the first paragraph of your post. Land occupied by Palestinians is not disputed territory. I’ve seen 5 Broken Cameras, and watched as rural farmers were pushed out by a concrete settlement. You can claim that that Palestinian land is Israel’s for the taking, because there is no Palestinian sovereignty. There are people on that land. People who now have to deal with checkpoints, and IDF abductions, and a widespread inability to receive any sort of official document allowing them to travel or relocate. Israel had the military and economic force to take land so it did, and it continues to do so. International law by-and-large frowns on Israel’s illegal settlements, but even if it didn’t, it would not change the fact that Israel is the occupier displacing the indigenous.

          • nick12
            Oct 24, 2016 - 09:26 PM

            Either you accept the norms and boundaries of international law, or you don’t. The territory is disputed regarding which sovereign state has the right to control it, not concerning who has the right to live within it. Israel may or may not have the legal right to control the land, but this would not in and of itself invalidate the right for Palestinians to live there. I wish the Palestinian people didn’t have to deal with such issues – and if the Palestinian leadership accepted Israel’s land-for-peace proposals (such as in 2008), they would be living in a contiguous, sovereign Palestine with a capital in East Jerusalem, today.

            And if you believe Palestinians are indigenous, what does that make Jews? Jews are an indigenous ethnoreligious people of Judea (you know, the land the Romans expelled them from before renaming it Syria-Palestina after their long-extinct foes, the Philistines). Hebrew language, religion, and civilization developed there. After 2,000 years of diaspora most Jews even maintain a genetic link to the land – study after study insist that Palestinians are the closest genetic group to the Jews. Not Russians, not Germans. If you are unwilling to acknowledge basic history – and believe me, SJP as an organization is unwilling – then you can expect SJP to remain a marginalized fringe group within the Tufts sphere.

          • Ander Pierce
            Oct 24, 2016 - 11:44 PM

            I need to learn more about Jewish connection to Israel, but I also know that there is a difference between the immediate connection a Palestinian (or Mizrahi Jew) has to the land and the connection some Ashkenazi jew who traces their right to the land through the bible. In one case you have people who have occupied the land for years, in the other you have someone tracing their right to return to land they haven’t occupied for generations using genetics.

            For the record, I am not an advocate of displacing actual Israelis. They live there now, for better or for worse. But I also know that the IDF can act against Palestinians without any real form of repercussion, and that most of occupied Palestine is essentially a (shrinking) open-air prison.

            Come to Tea with SJP if you want. You say we’re marginalized, but Jewish SJP members attend alt-J Shabbat and rub shoulders with J-street activists and anyone else interested in collective liberation.

            By and large, you’ll find that we are passionate, eager to learn, and unwilling to leave unchallenged dominant narratives which excuse IDF violence and dismiss Israel’s colonialist actions.

            I’m sure we’ll continue to be targeted by radical Zionists and the alt-right. And we may not be welcome in Hillel. But whether or not we’re a ‘fringe-group’, we’re thriving.

          • nick12
            Oct 25, 2016 - 12:56 AM

            Ander, I’m glad you recognize that you could benefit from learning a bit of Jewish history. I think that is part of why you ended up in such an organization as SJP, which routinely denies it. While many Ashkenazi Jews trace their connection to Israel through the Torah, it remains true that aside from religious belief there is a tangible, secular historical connection as well. Ashkenazim are the descendants of Jews who, expelled by the Romans from Judea, traveled to the European portion of the Roman Empire. They do not need to trace our connection through the Bible – we can trace it through historical record, archaeological evidence, and genetic studies. SJP claims to be anti-imperialist, yet it is the Jews who have resisted imperialist erasure longer than any other group! Jewish claims to Israel do not necessitate rejection of Palestinian claims to the land – but Palestinians have to hold up their end of the bargain. So long as Palestinian and Arab leadership speak on behalf of Jews (!) and claim that Judaism is not a nation with legitimate ties to the land, Jews and Jewish Israelis will not see a legitimate partner for peace.

            The IDF cannot act against Palestinian citizens of Israel without repercussions. As for Palestinian citizens of Palestine living in the West Bank and Gaza, yes this is an issue. But under a legal military occupation Israel is not required to try people in civilian courts.

            You say Jewish SJP members are open-minded, and this is true – so open-minded that many have absorbed the meta-narrative of SJP and the Palestinians at the expense of the Jewish meta-narrative. Clearly this is not a balanced view. If you think that denying Ashkenazis have any legitimate claims to Israel outside of the Bible will in any way bring everyone closer to peace, you’re very wrong. If you think SJP hosting events preaching anti-Zionism will help, you’re wrong. Why isn’t SJP criticizing the corrupt PA and genocidal Hamas? As ‘Students for Justice in Palestine’ they should be doing just that – advocating for justice for Palestinians, which is being impeded in large part by Palestinian leadership.

            You won’t just be facing backlash from the alt-right. You will be facing principled criticism from the mainstream (as opposed to ‘alt’) Jewish community – rightist, centrist, and liberal Jews – for the rest of your lives, or at least as long as you continue to operate under an organization that many view as a hate group itself. Not because most Jews are unwilling to hear criticism of Israel, but because of the sensationalist and dangerous propaganda that SJP shamelessly spews. You sound like a well-intentioned student – I hope your critical thinking abilities will help you see through the facade that SJP promotes of itself.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 02:01 PM

            Jewish connection to Israel? Well, other than the fact that it dates back twice as long as Islam has even existed the connection is trivial.

            Ander, you would be wise to learn a lot of humiliation. A lot. Your naivete in thinking that liberal Tuft’s professors or that SJP will teach you the real history of Israel is sophomoric.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:57 PM

            We understand, Ander, you saw a movie and we all know movies are never biased and are always 100% truthful. You’re really something else.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:55 PM

            Islamic jihadists have violently conquered vast regions of the planet, from Indonesia to Morocco and from Malaysia to NW China. Most recently Muslim jihadists violently conquered Sudan. The jihadists do not bother “colonizing” the lands they simply kill or forcibly convert all infidels. Meanwhile, in Israel, the Muslim demographic is 20% of the population and Muslims are professors, doctors, lawyers, serve in the parliament, successful businessmen but let’s ignore all that because they are inconvenient facts.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:49 PM

            I’m constantly congratulating liberals on their being elected as spokes’tards for Islam.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:48 PM

            Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) is an oxymoronic synonym for SSI: “Students for Slandering Israel.” A tacit collaborator with BDS, the international movement that reviles Israel and calls for boycotts, divestment and sanctions against the Jewish state, SJP was established at Berkeley (where else?) in 2001. Within a year its activities led to a university ban prohibiting on-campus protests.

            A decade later at Brandeis, SJP protesters interrupted a speech by Knesset member Avi Dichter to accuse him – and implicitly Israel – of torture and crimes against humanity. Earlier this year, the Northeastern University chapter of SJP was suspended for a year after its members were charged with “intimidation” of students.

            In preparation for its October annual conference SJP presented an agenda for its role “in the struggle for the liberation of Palestine.” Highlighting its focus on “the ongoing colonization and occupation of indigenous lands and peoples,” it promised to explore “how settler colonialism is racialized and gendered and disproportionately affects women and children. We will also look into the increased violence against Palestinian women and women refugees and migrants in Israel.”

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            Entebbe: Are We Heeding the Lessons?
            July 4th marks the 40th anniversary of the rescue of Israeli hostages at Entebbe. Today we are surrounded by international terrorism….

            SJP assertively promised to provide “the necessary knowledge and tools to counter efforts by Zionist organizations to normalize and whitewash the Israeli occupation as a means of undermining student groups organizing on campus around Palestinian rights.” More generously, it pledged to “focus on continuing to combat all forms of Judeophobia/anti-Semitism and conflation of Zionism with Judaism.”

            The latest SJP chapter to make news, as far away as Israel where Ha’aretz broke the story, is located at Wellesley College, which has a history of anti-Semitism as old as the institution. Wellesley SJP identifies itself as “a group of students dedicated to raising awareness about the dire situation in Palestine.” Its favorite recent tactic has been posting signs on campus asking “What Does Zionism Mean To You?” Among the written responses: “genocide,” “apartheid,” and “murder.”

            The faculty leader of Wellesley SJP is Sima Shakhsari, an assistant professor of women’s and gender studies who has endorsed a boycott by anthropologists of Israeli academic institutions. Her clarity of thought may be gleaned from her statement on the College website describing her current research: “[My] book provides an analysis of Weblogistan as a site of cybergovernmentality where simultaneously national and neo-liberal gendered subjectivities are produced through online and offline heteronormative disciplining and normalizing techniques.”

            Professor Shakhsari’s research, she informs readers, “is connected to the larger discursive context of the freedom movements in the Middle East and democratization projects in Iran, [and] examines the way that Iranian transgender refugees are nationalized/denationalized, sexed, gendered, and raced in multiple re-reterritorializations as they transition across national boundaries, online and offline ‘frontiers,’ sexual norms, religious discourses, and geopolitical terrains during the “war on terror.”

            Her Wellesley student acolytes have (preposterously) accused their classmates of “trying to shut down discussion of Israel/Palestine.” Wellesley SJP claimed that its campus posters merely “created an open discussion” for a “respectful” glimpse of “the diversity of our community.” It even quoted a Jewish SJP member who praised the organization for creating “a comfortable space for me, as a Jewish student who stands for Palestinian human rights.” With a final rhetorical burst of self-righteousness, it asserted: “Comments that portray Wellesley SJP . . . and its anti-Israel criticisms as ‘menacing threats to safety and security’ are anti-Arab and reinforce a racialized image of the Other.”

            Wellesley SJP members are evidently diligent students who have learned circumlocution from their mentor Professor Shakhsari. Indeed, their rhetorical tropes sound like they were borrowed from someone with an ingrained fondness for such academic gobbledygook as “heteronormative disciplining,” “cybergovernmentality” and ‘reterritorializations.” But it gets worse. Professor Shakhsari’s classroom lacerations of Israel, combined with her grade retaliation for students who do not parrot her bias, have already become known to College authorities. Whether they will respond appropriately at reappointment and promotion time remains to be seen.

            Wellesley SJP is shocked (shocked!) to be blamed for poisoning the campus atmosphere with anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism. But they know how to play “gotcha,” claiming “It is the small minority of Palestinian and Arab students on our campus who often feel most marginalized as the result of the policing of discourse.”

            As a wise, perhaps even heteronormative, sage once said: “If the shoe fits, wear it.”

    • Ander Pierce
      Oct 24, 2016 - 07:30 PM

      Some right-wing institute paid somebody to put up flyers accusing my friends of being terrorists, using a bogus Israeli blacklist as its source. How is this post unjustifiably angry?

      • nick12
        Oct 24, 2016 - 08:24 PM

        Clearly the Horowitz organization was wrong in its insidious targeting of Tufts students. But at the same time, Tufts SJP activists cannot publicly [wrongfully] accuse Israel of genocide, apartheid and racism without expecting repercussions. You don’t have the privilege of using the victim card while simultaneously spewing noxious hatred.

  3. roccolore
    Oct 24, 2016 - 05:47 PM

    SJP is a fascist group that advocates killing Jews. Funny how the Muslim and left-wing fascists whine about hate when they are the real hate group.

    • Ander Pierce
      Oct 24, 2016 - 07:40 PM

      I don’t advocate for killing anyone. My friends don’t advocate for killing Jews. I study Palestinian literature and find my friends targeted by vitriol spewing fanatics like you. Calm down.

      • roccolore
        Oct 24, 2016 - 07:50 PM

        It’s liberals like you who are the vitriol-spewing fanatics, especially against Jews, Christians, and critics of radical Islam.

        • Ander Pierce
          Oct 24, 2016 - 07:56 PM

          I am descended from Russian Jews. Believe what you want so long as your beliefs don’t harm others. Chill roccolore. Unless you’re being paid by Horowitz or group like them, in which case, just keep doing your job.

          • roccolore
            Oct 24, 2016 - 07:57 PM

            I’ve seen “peace rallies” where SJP and the Muslim Brotherhood Students Association physically attack Jewish student and advocate the destruction of Israel.

          • Ander Pierce
            Oct 24, 2016 - 08:21 PM

            And there are “Jerusalem Day Parades” where Israelis chant racism and vandalize Arab houses. You can google the videos. Lumping everyone who wants rights for Palestinians into one group is as counterproductive as assuming every Israeli is a war-criminal.

          • roccolore
            Oct 24, 2016 - 08:30 PM

            You hate all of Israel.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 07:10 PM

            Having lived there, I find little to recommend Israel. I felt conspicuously uncircumcised while there. Its people are rude and take pride in their being rude. Ever fly an airline out of Tel Aviv? And where in the contract is the clause stating that I have to pledge fealty to Israel, love it, applaud its actions — or at least give them a pass — and embrace its ideology? There are fewer and fewer similarities between the U.S. and Israel, and good will toward Israel is eroding more and more. In my opinion, any American Jew who forgoes voluntary military service in the U.S. but enlists in the IDF is a traitor who should forfeit U.S. citizenship. Always an exception made for Israel.

          • Concerned Citizen
            Oct 25, 2016 - 07:25 PM

            What a hate-filled comment! In what context would you ever think it’s appropriate to generalize about the people of an entire country like this!

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 07:29 PM

            Hate filled? On the contrary, I had to laugh at Israelis, especially when watching them in a duty-free shop. I guess you haven’t flown as many times as I have in and out of the country. Even flight crews dread the route to Tel Aviv.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:46 PM

            As we come into the United Nations, we passed the flags of all 193 member States. If you take the time to count, you will discover that there are 15 flags with a crescent and 25 flags with a cross. And then there is one flag with a Jewish Star of David. Amidst all the nations of the world there is one state – just one small nation state for the Jewish people.

            And for Patrick, that is one too many.

          • LaughingAtYou
            Oct 29, 2016 - 02:52 AM

            Your bigotry is showing. Quit while you’re behind.

          • Patrick
            Oct 29, 2016 - 11:32 AM

            I’m no bigot. I just prefer not having any truck with Jews.

          • LaughingAtYou
            Oct 29, 2016 - 08:49 PM

            You are absolutely a bigot…and a moron, apparently.

          • Patrick
            Oct 29, 2016 - 08:53 PM

            Is that the best you can come up with? I have my opinions. You don’t have to share them, and if you find them offensive, move on. I don’t care for Zionist propaganda, and Americans who put Israel before the U.S. should make aliyah. It’s what the current Israeli prime minister and his predecessor called for, although they directed their message at the French.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:45 PM

            It’s my opinion that Muslims “frustration” with Israel and has more to do
            with Islam: Islam and its supremacist, hate-filled ideology. How else can one
            explain Islam’s violently aggressive roles in the following regions where the
            Israeli situation is non-existent. The common denominator – the only common denominator – IS Islam.
            * The unrelenting ethnic cleansing of all Hindus from their ancient homelands in Pakistan and Bangladesh.
            * The genocide of black Africans and Animists in Sudan., Mali and elsewhere.
            * The ethnic cleansing of Christians from Nigeria, Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt.
            * The slaughter of 5,000 Buddhists in Thailand in recent years.
            * The violence against Russians and the same against Chinese in recent years.
            * The Sunni and Shi’ite murder of Kurds.
            * The endless violence between Sunnis and Shi’ites with one million (!) killed in the Iraq/Iran war alone.
            * The wholesale murder of all gays in Iran and across the Muslim world.
            * The ethnic cleansing of Bahia in Iran.
            * The endless war crimes in Syria.
            * The ethnic cleansing of Berbers in North Africa.
            * The random and consistent terrorist attacks against all Western embassies and citizens across the globe.
            * The random and consistent killing of international aid volunteers from polio vaccine volunteers to doctors from organizations like Doctors without Borders.
            The only common denominator is Islam. If Israel were eliminated by Ahmadinejad this would not change our dynamics with the Middle East.
            When the Buddhists in Thailand give up their land then, and only then, will Muslims stop killing them and the same is true for the Jews in Israel.

          • Patrick
            Oct 30, 2016 - 12:47 AM

            Sticks and stones…. I give no credence whatsoever to the judgments or opinions of members of the tribe. Go look for someone who gives a damn what you think. For me, members of the tribe are inconsequential.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:42 PM

            I’m no bigot. I just prefer not having any truck with Irishmen who think with their nether regions rather than their alcohol-addled brain.

          • Patrick
            Oct 29, 2016 - 11:40 AM

            Pointing out that American Jews have divided loyalties is called patriotism, not bigotry. I have to wonder why so strong an attachment to a country where they only vacation. Americans of Italian, German, Korean or Chinese descent, whose ancestors were immigrants to the U.S. within recent memory, have less strong feelings for the “fatherland” than Jews, whose ancestors probably immigrated from Poland, do for Israel. It is peculiar. A kind of international nationalism.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:41 PM

            The Palestinians would spin George Orwell’s head around.

            They slit Jewish children throats and are cheered by their demented brothers and sisters and leaders and imams for doing so.
            They indiscriminately blow-up Israeli buses and then get streets named after them for doing so.
            They then whine, bitch and complain when Israel builds a separation barrier to protect her children from inhumane psychopaths who are praised for killing three-month old children.

            A sicker more pathological society would be hard for George Orwell to have imagined.


            The Palestinians are professional victims.

            They shoot thousands of rockets into Israeli town centers shouting out “Allahu Akbar” as the rockets leave their launch platforms.
            They shoot thousands of rockets during Israel’s rush hour and when school lets out invoking Allah’s good will that the rockets kill women and children.
            They then whine, bitch and moan when Israel targets their bloodthirsty terrorist rocket-making-and-shooting thugs who cower behind women’s skirts and alongside school children underneath their school desks as they hide from Israel’s attempt to bring justice to these child-murdering-Islamo-facists.

            What a truly pathetic, hypocritical, despicable people the Palestinians are. George Orwell would vomit at the thought that their behavior is rationalized by the intellectual elite.

          • Arafat
            Oct 31, 2016 - 01:39 PM

            While Saudis repress all their people (other than the royal family whom have private $500 million dollar private airplanes)… and while Saudis execute gays, women and Shi’ites on trumped up charges… and while Saudis export Islamist hatred across the globe…we focus our angst on Israel – the only country in the Middle East where Palestinians have the right to vote and where Palestinians serve in Parliament -for deep down we are really just
            Brown Shirts pretending to be humanitarians.
            While Abbas serves in his eleventh year of his four year term, and while Hamas rules with fear,
            repression and intimidation, while education under the Palestinian elected officials focuses on Mein Kampf-like messages, and while women killers and baby killers are glorified by the perverse and despicable Palestinians we focus our angst upon Israel – the only country in the Middle East where Palestinians are free to protest and are allowed the luxury of free speech -for we are really just Brown Shirts pretending to be humanitarians.
            While Pakistanis ethnically cleanse that once entirely Hindu country of its few remaining Hindus we focus
            our angst on Israel – a country with a Palestinian Supreme Court member – for deep down we are really just Brown Shirts pretending to be humanitarians.
            While Egyptians ethnically cleanse that country of its two thousand year old Coptic community we focus our
            angst on Israel – a country with a more diverse demographic profile than any Muslim country in the Middle East -for deep down we are just Brown Shirts masquerading as humanitarians.
            While Islamists turn Nigeria into the next Sudan with gang-raping and child kidnapping and mass killings becoming
            commonplace we focus our angst on Israel – for we are hypocritical Muslim apologists -and deep down we are really just Brown Shirts pretending to be humanitarians.
            While Sunnis insatiably kill Shi’ites, and Shi’ites endlessly kill Kurds, and while Kurds endlessly kill
            Sunnis and every variation of this blood-letting theme, we focus our angst on Israel – the only country in the world that has increased its green space – because we are just Brown Shirts pretending to be humanitarians.
            While Yemenis turn that bread basket of the Arabian Peninsula into a place of starvation we focus our
            crocodile tears on Israel for deep down we are really just Brown Shirts pretending to be humanitarians.
            While Islamists in Southern Thailand kill off over 5,000 Buddhists in the span of a few years we ignore their plight and turn our focus on Israel – a country that has contributed more medical and scientific advancements per capita of any country in the world – for we are today’s Brown Shirts, today’s Goebbels’ acolytes goose-stepping like a gaggle of mindless geese.

          • TuftsAlum89
            Oct 29, 2016 - 02:49 AM

            Exactly. People like Ander support their arguments with anecdotal examples (some real, some distorted, some utterly false) of bad acts by Israelis to justify intitutional violence, bigotry and hatred maintained by the PA/Hamas leaders of the Arabs who call themselves “Palestinians.”

    • Chapo Trap House Boyz
      Oct 24, 2016 - 11:23 PM

      “Left-wing fascists” toplel buddy. Thanks for telling me what I believe.

  4. ThisIsPalestine
    Oct 25, 2016 - 08:47 AM

    But SJP will be silent when Hamas executes people and when the PA imprisons people for Facebook posts and “blasphemy.” Because Palestinian human rights only matter when Israel can be blamed for violating them.

  5. Brownstudent
    Oct 25, 2016 - 09:16 AM

    You’re seriously going to come on here and cry about posters when SJP has brought violence and hatred to colleges all across the country? Stuff it. I think you’re just upset because Horowitz discovered you all were planning to carry on that long-standing tradition of SJP violence and hatred against everyone who disagrees with you, as dictated here:


    If anyone here thinks that SJP isn’t a terrorist organization and hate group, I have some additional reading for you:


    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at the University of Windsor:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at the University of Chicago:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at the University of California:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at UC Irvine:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at Northeastern University:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at the University of Maryland:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at McMaster University:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at the University of Michigan:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at UCLA:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at DePaul University:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at San Diego State University:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at Concordia University:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at Ohio State University:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at Vassar College:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at New York University:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at Loyola University:

    SJP-inspired violence and intimidation at the University of Pittsburgh:

    I’ve got some bad news for you and the rest of the Students for Just Us in Palestine. You ARE a bunch of bullies and you ARE opposed to free speech for people who disagree with you. SJP is a hate movement, no different than the Westboro Baptist Church. Everywhere it goes it brings conflict, anti-Semitism, strife and discord. Disassociate yourself with it now, before it drags you down with it.

    • Patrick
      Oct 25, 2016 - 01:26 PM

      Perhaps you should be studying in a yeshiva, and not in an Ivy League college.

      • Brownstudent
        Oct 25, 2016 - 01:33 PM

        Thank you for reminding us, as if we needed another example, that people who flock to the “pro-Palestinian” cause are often (though not always) prejudiced against Jewish people. Really not helping your cause there, bud.

        • Patrick
          Oct 25, 2016 - 01:48 PM

          I was harassed by Jewish students at Yale University, both as an undergraduate and a graduate student. Funny how the presence of an Arab American can fill Jewish hearts with fear. As far as I see it, it’s payback.

          • Brownstudent
            Oct 25, 2016 - 01:51 PM

            Well at least you have the stones to admit you are an anti-Semite, just a self-righteous one. If only your fellow SJP members would do the same, we could make a lot of progress.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 02:01 PM

            I am a Semite. Show me the fine print in the contract that states I have to profess a love of Jews.

          • Brownstudent
            Oct 25, 2016 - 02:07 PM

            One would think a graduate of Yale University would be able to read a dictionary:


            Don’t worry, it’s shorter than six pages.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 02:15 PM

            The old anti-Semite card. It comes out whenever anyone criticizes Israel. Here an anti-Semite/There an anti-Semite/Everywhere an anti-Semite/Old MacDonald had a farm. That’s a two-time graduate of Yale University. Address me as sir, and not bud.

          • Brownstudent
            Oct 25, 2016 - 02:16 PM

            I think any honest person reading this thread would be able to tell that I came to my conclusion not because of comments you made about Israel but because of comments you made about Jews. I’m going to stop feeding you now. Have fun at the next SJP meeting.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 02:26 PM

            Please profess here and now your undying love for Arabs, particularly Palestinians. When you do, I’ll reconsider my feelings about Jews.

          • Brownstudent
            Oct 25, 2016 - 02:47 PM

            Oh very well. “Undying love” is kind of a strong statement but I have as much love for Arabs and Palestinians as I do for any other group of people. Most of them are good people that I would enjoy spending time with. Some of them are shitty.

            Just because I criticize the thugs and terrorists of SJP doesn’t mean I have anything against Palestinians or Arabs as people. Unlike you, who have made many statements in this thread alone indicating prejudices against Jews. If you would like to apologize to the Jewish community, including the ones here at Tufts, please do so at this time.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 03:17 PM

            I owe no one an apology. Give me the offending sentence. I am still waiting for an apology from the Jewish students at Yale who tormented me. It never came. Some Jews can be pretty “shitty” people, too.

          • Brownstudent
            Oct 25, 2016 - 03:27 PM

            Offending sentence number one: When you said I should “study in a yeshiva” because I dared to criticize SJP. This is a marginalizing and othering comment that silences me on the assumption that I am Jewish, an assumption made with no evidence.

            Offending sentence number two: When you said “Funny how the presence of an Arab American can fill Jewish hearts with fear.” Generalizing a large group of people because of the alleged actions of a few is the dictionary definition of a prejudice. You are spreading hatred of Jews by saying they all are afraid of Arabs. You would think a person who has experienced bigotry himself wouldn’t be so fast to spread hatred of others. I guess the oppressed really does become the oppressor.

            Offending sentence number three: When you tried to pretend anti-Semitism doesn’t exist with your “I am a Semite” remark, further marginalizing and silencing the voices of an oppressed minority by pretending that their experiences don’t matter. Again, one would hope that an alleged victim of prejudice wouldn’t revisit that prejudice on others.

            Offending sentence number four: When you claimed that there’s an “anti-Semite card” that “comes out whenever anyone criticizes Israel.” Again you marginalize and silence Jewish voices by pretending that their experiences either don’t exist or don’t matter. Which is pretty disgusting, but highly typical of SJP member behavior.

            No one here is responsible for the alleged actions of these alleged students at Yale. All we’re doing is asking you to take responsibility for your own actions, including the hatred you are spreading on this website. Will you do so? You owe everyone on this thread an apology. Will you man up and make one?

          • Avi
            Oct 25, 2016 - 03:56 PM

            Judaism maintains that the righteous of all nations have a place in the world to come. This has been the majority rule since the days of the Talmud. Judaism generally recognizes that Christians and Muslims worship the same G-d that we do and those who follow the tenets of their religions can be considered righteous in the eyes of G-d.

            Contrary to popular belief, Judaism does not maintain that Jews are better than other people. Although we refer to ourselves as G-d’s chosen people, we do not believe that G-d chose the Jews because of any inherent superiority. According to the Talmud (Avodah Zarah 2b), the Jews were offered the Torah last, and accepted it only because G-d held a mountain over their heads! (In Ex. 19:17, the words generally translated as “at the foot of the mountain” literally mean “underneath the mountain”!) Another traditional story suggests that G-d chose the Jewish nation because they were the lowliest of nations, and their success would be attributed to G-d’s might rather than their own ability. Clearly, these are not the ideas of a people who think they are better than other nations.

            Patrick – Judaism teaches to respect people of all faiths and backgrounds. Perhaps those Jews you encountered were simply bitter people. But “reciprocating” their behavior by adopting a negative view of all Jews is stooping very low, indeed.

          • Patrick
            Oct 29, 2016 - 11:29 AM

            I’m a human being with all the frailties of a human being. I prefer to steer clear of Jews, because I am safe from assault.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 04:01 PM

            Me thinks she doth protest too much. You should read a definition of projection. I was at the receiving end of harassment at the hands of Jewish students at Yale University. Did I say Jewish experience doesn’t matter? For decades, Jews have controlled the narrative on Palestine. It must discomfit you to realize that not everyone shares your opinions about Zionism. I will not apologize. I refuse. Now go pick a fight with someone you might more successfully intimidate.

          • Brownstudent
            Oct 25, 2016 - 04:04 PM

            So because a few Jews were mean to you, it’s acceptable for you to spread anti-Semitism for the rest of your life without criticism? How childish. Every racist throughout history has always held up bad people from the targeted group to justify their actions. Yet racists they remained.

            You’re really making SJP and the pro-Palestinian cause in general look worse with every passing comment. I wonder if any of them will step into this thread and weigh in. Somehow I don’t think it will happen.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 04:07 PM

            The Israelis liked me. I am wary of Jews. Who knows when the next one will pounce. You appear to be the one today. Zionism is an experiment that is failing. I hate to break the news to you. You owe me an apology for having called me an anti-Semite and a racist. How does the shoe fit when it’s on the other foot?

          • Brownstudent
            Oct 25, 2016 - 04:09 PM

            If you don’t want to be called an anti-Semite and a racist, don’t say anti-Semitic and racist things. I’m going to go now. Have fun stewing in your own self-righteous hatred.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 04:14 PM

            Enjoy your role as victim. You chose it, and you play it well.

          • Patrick
            Oct 25, 2016 - 02:17 PM

            I am not an anti-Semite. I am merely reciprocating the aversion or distaste that Jewish students at Yale University showed me. They taught me that it is best to steer clear of Jews, because I will be made to feel uncomfortable. Sound familiar?

        • Patrick
          Oct 25, 2016 - 01:51 PM

          Your parents are paying good money so that you can have a liberal arts education. In the course of your education, you will find that some people do not subscribe to your politics. Allegiance to Israel is not a requirement for admission to an Ivy League college. Get used to it.

          • ThisIsPalestine
            Oct 25, 2016 - 02:01 PM

            It sounds more like SJP should get used to the fact that other people support Israel and not harass and bully anyone who disagrees with them.

  6. TuftsAlum89
    Oct 29, 2016 - 02:30 AM

    Errata sheet for article (correcting the many errors):

    When soldiers kill terrorists to stop them from harming others, they are NOT engaged in “extra-judicial killings.”

    Arab children are imprisoned when they engage in violent acts, just like everyone else.

    Incitement of violence is NOT protected speech, even if packaged as “poetry.”

    Israel is NOT racist, nor is it an apartheid state.

    SJP and JVP are fraudulent organizations who seek neither peace nor justice. They seek the elimination of the Jewish State of Israel.

  7. Patrick
    Oct 30, 2016 - 02:04 PM

    What is needed is mandatory classes on the Holocaust as part of every American’s high school education. Forget Lincoln, Jefferson, or Patton. Every high school student should know the names Gold Meir, Moshe Dayan, Ze’ev Jabotinsky and many more. There should be a Holocaust memorial in every U.S. city with a population over 150,000. It’s the only way to silence these hateful critics of the Jewish State.

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